tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post5575819785254313389..comments2024-02-11T22:49:17.311-08:00Comments on Arizona Geology: Arizona legislative session had big impact on geology Lee Allisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11520300956249160005noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-20905144705749376492016-07-23T11:58:00.217-07:002016-07-23T11:58:00.217-07:00The Governor failed the citizens. The staff is onl...The Governor failed the citizens. The staff is only an extension of the Governor. Something is going on nationally with geological services. It seems to have started with Bruce Babbitt emasculating the USGS by eliminating geologists and making it another fish and wildlife department. Smacks of the anti-mining activists operating behind the curtains.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00325910853786860024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-35696467215865784712016-06-21T09:27:33.089-07:002016-06-21T09:27:33.089-07:00Mining and geology are easy targets. The majority ...Mining and geology are easy targets. The majority of Americans are anti-mining and don't understand or appreciate what geologist do. So politically, there is no major backlash from the constituents on these, unlike the backlash he'd feel from people on education, healthcare or immigration. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-3811381854614334292016-06-03T19:27:44.927-07:002016-06-03T19:27:44.927-07:00I am very disappointed by the complete lack of und...I am very disappointed by the complete lack of understanding and discussion with the affected parties in this legislation. The AZGS has been a leader in its field and this change will have a serious detrimental affect on its mission. Historically AZ has been a hotbed of mining scams and I fully expect this to return with the delicensing of geologists and assay laboratories. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869645571484529283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-22572294014693351472016-05-28T05:06:35.458-07:002016-05-28T05:06:35.458-07:00It was effective and it was helpful in a way gover...It was effective and it was helpful in a way government normally is NOT helpful. I think his staff let him down insofar as they had no plan other than reduce (that's not a bad thing but in this case it is very bad) There should have been a transition and funding plan in place that was reviewed prior to all this. Just a colossal mistake was made here in what the name of licensing easure? There are some things that must be licensed. Your doctor? Your lawyer? Your orthodontist?<br />His staff let him down and they let the people of Arizona down also. Remember this, if it cant be grown it must be mined and that is doubly true in Arizona. geo sciences are a must. Think about this, your house was built on land that was not geologically sound and your house was built by an unlicensed builder. Do you really think that is a good idea? We and the governor have been let down ,big time. Needs to be fixed properly and in a professional manner.,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-91467904027365821492016-05-27T17:09:08.095-07:002016-05-27T17:09:08.095-07:00The Governor is correct; unwarranted licensing req...The Governor is correct; unwarranted licensing requirements are often used to limit competition. However, does he think that means ALL licensing requirements are bad? Would he want to drive over a bridge designed by an unlicensed engineer, be defended by an unlicensed lawyer, or be treated by an unlicensed medical doctor? Does he really think that geologists were licensed to limit competition?Dickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17717447541461745969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-23798254160370713872016-05-27T11:13:09.361-07:002016-05-27T11:13:09.361-07:00The is a colossal whiff. The AZGS has long provide...The is a colossal whiff. The AZGS has long provided support to various industries throughout the state. It's one of the few government agencies that actually helps development instead of obstructing it. Ducey is in over is head. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-21745187565587499712016-05-26T14:57:07.362-07:002016-05-26T14:57:07.362-07:00The Governor's staff failed him. Before the ex...The Governor's staff failed him. Before the executive budget zeroed out the the AZGS budget, someone should have prepared a fact sheet on the expected impact. Then, if the proposed consolidation was to be implemented after proper due diligence, the should have been a transition plan. The staff obviously did neither of these things because neither party was aware of the proposed consolidation until the executive budget was submitted to the Legislature. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-31908987281735816992016-05-26T01:03:56.535-07:002016-05-26T01:03:56.535-07:00sure domp them and give them no funding. Change ju...sure domp them and give them no funding. Change just for change is not a good idea. The governors office seems to rule by decree. Destroying a worthwhile endevour like azgs is in the short term may seem like a good idea to the executive branch but to industry and the citizens of this state it is obvious that geology and past state history means nothing to this governors"advisors". They are ignorant of what azgs does and have destroyed a fine and upstanding entity for the sake of what? Optics? I really thought that this governor would see how valuable minerals and mineral knowledge and information would be to this state. Apparantly he cannot see the forest for the trees and his advisors? Political hacks without any knowledge of what minrals mean to this stete? Even less. You notice all these comments are anonymous? Gee, I wonder why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-6386171649262164832016-05-25T15:58:56.231-07:002016-05-25T15:58:56.231-07:00The only justification for putting AZGS under the ...The only justification for putting AZGS under the UofA was that 22 states have done it. (That means 28 states have not.) This is a hollow reason--we'd need to know how the Universities fund their Geological Surveys and if they function at the high level AZGS did. What is the most unsettling about what I thought was a good idea, is that it's a disaster for AZGS and the Governor's office may not care. Dumping this on the UofA without additional funding was also not fair to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-10604767678516111462016-05-25T11:58:43.364-07:002016-05-25T11:58:43.364-07:00If the governor wants to protect job creators, he ...If the governor wants to protect job creators, he should look at the fact that AZGS makes public data available. This is important to any industry which uses geological data and especially important to the small companies within those industries. Geological data isn't cheap to get. Big companies have libraries of proprietary data, little guys do not. The eventual demise or marginalizing of AZGS via this decision will just make it harder on small companies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-48575119129103699822016-05-25T08:53:04.763-07:002016-05-25T08:53:04.763-07:00The idea of consolidating AZGS into the UofA Colle...The idea of consolidating AZGS into the UofA College of Science is not a bad one in and of itself. To do it without first meeting with both parties and checking to see if a viable plan could be outlined that was constructive rather than destructive,was a total failure of leadership from the Governor's office. As you look at the budget, what little has been there to support science is being taken away, while other areas liker history, with redundancy, and little self-supporting achievements, is given millions. AZ has many science and technology industries that need better science education and resources for our students. Taking them away just to eliminate a budget line item is not a worthwhile plan. Let's get this mess fixed, and support AZGS in maintaining its level of service and self-supporting achievement.<br />is not a plan worth cheering about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-7056670215591314102016-05-24T17:59:47.002-07:002016-05-24T17:59:47.002-07:00Statutes are being abruptly revised without any co...Statutes are being abruptly revised without any concern for unintended consequences. We lost a top rated and very efficient mineral museum, as well as its essential K-12 education programs, for a $15 million pie in the sky centennial project that could never happen. Now, an outstanding state geological survey is being jeopardized without a transition plan and no curiosity about why it was separated from the U of A in the first place. Was it perhaps so successful because it was not burdened with excessive overhead?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-90651470145222803452016-05-24T13:31:42.511-07:002016-05-24T13:31:42.511-07:00We have just seen our bulldog governor's offic...We have just seen our bulldog governor's office for what it really is--controlling and consolidating without a plan except Ducey's way or the highway. The rudeness with which this consolidation happened and with no care for the consequences is appalling and reflects very poorly on true leadership from our Governor. A plan that looked at the paltry savings compared to lost contract revenue was needed, but never happened. Planning to assure success for the affected parties wasn't even a concern. It's time for the legislature to stand up to this kind of lack of foresight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-15249530026839248362016-05-23T17:41:38.764-07:002016-05-23T17:41:38.764-07:00I wholeheartedly agree with your comment. I wholeheartedly agree with your comment. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03844083519221083404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30940686.post-88289358177862721002016-05-23T15:29:43.695-07:002016-05-23T15:29:43.695-07:00Very sad news...............sad to see geologists ...Very sad news...............sad to see geologists are considered an "odd job" and sad to see the demise of the AZGS. This is the beginning of the end of what had been such a strong geological survey. These actions are the result of legislators trying to prove a point without understanding the importance of geologists and the AZGS, or understanding the hard work that has gone into making the AZGS such a strong agency and developing good professional geologist licensing regulations. Very sad for the geology profession and is probably an indication of what is yet to come for other professions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com